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“Jesus Loves You More Than You Will Know!”

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Depression comes about when there are subconscious or even conscious conflicts in peoples minds, and they don’t see any way out of it. Trapped in a religious belief that she is going to hell, and desperately trying to hide her own feelings for vagina and boobs vs penis, and balls.

She is fundamentally mentally ill. An induced mental illness. It is time that homophobia be recognized as a form of hate filled mental illness. Does anyone doubt that hitler and his gang were mentally ill with hatred? Well, hitler sent germany’s gays to the gas chambers and ovens also.

And there is a book which explains hitlers self hatred. In his case, it appears he was a bastard son of a Jew. What could have been worse then being a bastard and a Jew in very Catholic Austria. A hatred from the dominant catholic chruch.

And the cost of this hatred was the worst conflagration of mankinds recorded history.

If you belong to the Catholic or very conservative christian churches, in the name of God, you should walk out the door.

Why on earth should an individual with her ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS record be assumed by those whom she has vilely attacked and persecuted to be telling the truth when she offers depression as her reason for jumping ship and quitting?

For centuries politicians have invented all sorts of excuses or reasons to save face when the heat in the kitchen has got too hot and they have decided to quit, to flee.

Robinson has behaved atrociously for years and many of us have given her hell for it! Suddenly she’s throwing in the towel but instead of putting her hands up and saying “OK! You win!”, no, she’s seeking sympathy with a story of depression. And the naive amongst us have immediately believed it! Extraordinary!

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Hello Lady MacBeth. Meet Mr. Stewart Cowan.

“Only those who have faced similar challenges in life will know the ordeal faced by those who are profoundly depressed, and the distress caused to those around them as they grapple with personality-changing illness.”

Only those who have faced similar experiences now the pain. How the bloody hell does this apply for people suffering depression, but not for LGBTs living with persecution?! What sheer audacity she has! I have not one ounce of sympathy for her. She hurt people with her words and actions, and prepped the minds of those who wish to make that hurt into something more tangible. All that matters to me is that she can’t do that anymore.

I suffer from depression myself. Mine is milder (fortunately, I don’t think I need medication) and it’s more to do with apathy than being depressed, so my experiences are different to hers. But, I definitely know the “personality-changing” feeling. It can be scary at times, and very stressful. Here’s something that I’ve experienced that I wonder if she’s experienced: positivity makes things better. Right up there with diet and exercise, one of the best things a person can do for their mental health is to focus on the positive and find goals to work towards. Positive goals, of course. I have no doubt it’s the same for Robinson. So, why, oh why, is she so obssessed with her hate-fuelled vendetta against us heathens? She’s just making her condition worse.

It’s your own bloody fault, Robinson. When you become a worthwhile human being, you’ll gain my sympathy AND you’ll find yourself on the road to recovery.

Just to add, how presumptious of you to maintain that I don’t do either of the above?

“If you don’t REPENT of your sins, you won’t be saved.”

I think Jesus is reported to have said that “all have sinned.” When I’m aware that I’ve “sinned,” i.e. made mistakes in life, that being the more accurate translation of the notion of of “sinning,” then I’ve attempted to do something about it; my sexuality is not a “mistake,” it’s a fact of life; God made me this way!

However, like so many a literalist I’ve ever encountered you are seemingly unable to keep one of Jesus’s supposed “commandments,” about “not judging”..

Which do you think he’s more concerned with..my “sinning”, or your judgement?

No it doesn’t, it’s the most “natural” you can be, we ARE animals.
There’s no point pretending otherwise.

We may be able to think about that, but we are animals, nevertheless.

“You don’t “take your chances with the Almighty”, you live and breathe Him. Then you’ll know what the condemnation is for sin and hopefully change and be redeemed. If you don’t REPENT of your sins, you won’t be saved. The Almighty doesn’t want people taking their “chances” he wants your all.”

You don’t know what the Almightly wants, anymore than I do; unless we go back to the “it says so in the Bible” mentality and, like I said there’s no point in arguing with that, because it’s so easy to demonstrate just how inconsistent the Bible is, on so many levels, including the concept and meaning of “sin” which is mistranslate from the original language of writing.

When I wrote of “taking my chances,” you’ve failed IMO understand that as a concept..see how easy it is to “get the wrong end of the stick.” with the written word?
Christians have been doing that for 2000 years!

I meant I’ll have my own relationship with the Almighty, not with anyone seeking to tell me what he/she thinks and that includes, of course, yourself.
And, he has my “all.” :O)that has nothing to do with a slavish adherence to the Bible!

As for “worshipping” anything, or anyone, it’s a very insecure deity that needs to constantly wailed at in order to massage “his” own ego..

During a recent visit to Luton the Muslim Peer, Baroness Farsi had eggs pelted at her by muslim extremists. I casually observed that those doing the pelting were actually very good-looking and well-kept.

So come on, Mr Cowan, get your kit off and post it on the web….. we’re dying to have a look!

(It’s also potentially depressing but I shall accentuate the positive, always the best policy when dealing with the, erm, underdeveloped, I find.)

And Iris (#101 and oh how I wish) – an excellent dissection of Steart’s views. I agree with almost everything but would add that I have no problem with religion, it’s just the insistence of those who want to force everyone to live by the same code that I can’t accept. Stewart can praise his Lord all he likes but needs to accept that that’s his choice and many of us wish to excercise our right not to without the likes of him and moneybags Robinson giving us their disapproval in such oppressive terms.

I fear all hope of logic debate is lost here folks!!!

So, following your logic, Stewart, incest is natural too?

You eat, don’t you? Well, animals eat too so that makes you crude and disgusting, right? Just using more of your logic there

Have you heard of the phrase ‘Can’t see the wood for the trees’? Reading what you say reminds me of that a lot. The message of Jesus is one of love, not hate. You focus on some tiny detail that you believe the Bible says and ignore the overall message (and, no, the overall message ISN’T about getting a place in Heaven – that’s base self-interest).

I have no problem with religion, but I do have one with fundamentalists (the clue’s in the word..). You pervert Christianity and daub it with your own personal obsessions so you can use it to persecute and victimise others – burning women as witches? Treating women as inferior? Using the Bible and the Curse of Ham to ‘prove’ black people are bad too? Using the Bible to defend slavery?

I feel sorry for you because I don’t believe that you’re living your life to the full. Whether you believe in an afterlife or not, it’s sad to waste this earthly one in hate and ignorance. You can spout off all you like about LGBT people, but, thankfully, the majority of people know that you’re simply wrong. They also, like me, suspect that your focus on homosexuality is indicative of something deep within yourself that you’re trying to push down, ignore and hide. Most adult men aren’t the slightest bit interested in other people’s sexuality.

Paleeeze, not the “homosexual activity being found in many different species” line.

No animal is wholly homosexual (that I have heard of). And anyway, ‘behaving like an animal’ is not a compliment. It means you are ignorant, crude, disgusting and many other adjectives.

Worshipping Him who breathed your soul into you is the most normal thing there is. Since Adam and Eve were caught out in the Garden of Eden after knowing good and evil, they started wearing clothing, so “wearing shoes” is “natural”. Of course writing is necessary to spread the word of God.

Logic, therefore, depends on your worldview. If that is wrong then your logic won’t work.

I’m sure the Bible says something about “taking the Lord’s name in vain?”..

That’s before we even get on to the notion of trying to find consistancy in a “book” cobbled together under the most questionable of circumstances, which contains huge numbers of historical and geographical errors, what was left out and, more importantly why; how much of it is built on pagan myths, Mithraism, in particular and the political whims of Emperor Constantine.

If the Bible is the handiwork of God, with a large “G” then he wasn’t paying a huge amount of attention to detail, or accuracy, when he inspired it!

To insist such a book is “the word of God,” and that includes my reference above is, to say the least, on very shaky ground.

To paraphrase Tim Freke, who’s done a huge amount of research on the origins of the Bible and Christianity, to argue that everything in this book is true….why?…..because it says so in the book leads to a circular argument which literalist Christians can never get away from.

And, I’d be willing to make a bet that God finds the fact that we get our knickers in a twist over something so insignificant as what two people get up to in the sack, in the scheme of things both amusing and frustrating at the same time.

But, then that would also be to presume God’s Will :O)

In the end, I’ll take my chances with the Almighty, him/herself and won’t be worrying too much about the fire and brimstone brigade and their obsessions!