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	<title>Comments on: Welsh rugby star sorry for gay joke</title>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought Police working double shifts again. Why is it that a total stranger like Peter Tachell thinks he has the right and perception to decide what is acceptable and unacceptable in banter between friends?

Grow up people, let rugby boys be rugby boys for God&#039;s sake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought Police working double shifts again. Why is it that a total stranger like Peter Tachell thinks he has the right and perception to decide what is acceptable and unacceptable in banter between friends?</p>
<p>Grow up people, let rugby boys be rugby boys for God&#8217;s sake</p>
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who you calling possessive? 

Nitpicking anal-retentives. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who you calling possessive? </p>
<p>Nitpicking anal-retentives. <img src='http://www.pinknews.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96354</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....possessive pronoun, pet...
K
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..possessive pronoun, pet&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: AdrianT</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96340</link>
		<dc:creator>AdrianT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RobN was quite wrong when he said &quot;Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.&quot;  

It hurts me everytime Rob commits treason against the English language and puts an apostrophe in &#039;its&#039; when expressed as the possessive article. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RobN was quite wrong when he said &#8220;Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It hurts me everytime Rob commits treason against the English language and puts an apostrophe in &#8216;its&#8217; when expressed as the possessive article. <img src='http://www.pinknews.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Squidgy</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96324</link>
		<dc:creator>Squidgy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly there wasn&#039;t any Real news worthy of reporting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly there wasn&#8217;t any Real news worthy of reporting!</p>
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		<title>By: Pumpkin Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pumpkin Pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How predictable, a thread full of bogeymen.

How many of the above comments were complaining about &quot;us&quot; (nice way to victimise others by pretending you&#039;re part of the gang) taking ourselves too seriously, crying wolf, pushing back gay rights by another millenium, being the reason homophobia exists in the first place, etc., etc.? Quite a lot of them.

How many of the above comments claimed this was offensive? One, maybe two.

Yeah, I think that speaks for itself. Stories like this are a breeding ground for disenfranchised queers (and occasionally undercover straight homophobes, it has happened before) who just want an opportunity to tell us exactly what&#039;s wrong with our dirty little community. How tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How predictable, a thread full of bogeymen.</p>
<p>How many of the above comments were complaining about &#8220;us&#8221; (nice way to victimise others by pretending you&#8217;re part of the gang) taking ourselves too seriously, crying wolf, pushing back gay rights by another millenium, being the reason homophobia exists in the first place, etc., etc.? Quite a lot of them.</p>
<p>How many of the above comments claimed this was offensive? One, maybe two.</p>
<p>Yeah, I think that speaks for itself. Stories like this are a breeding ground for disenfranchised queers (and occasionally undercover straight homophobes, it has happened before) who just want an opportunity to tell us exactly what&#8217;s wrong with our dirty little community. How tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: darkmoonman</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96282</link>
		<dc:creator>darkmoonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on folks, we need to get over ourselves. I&#039;ve heard much worse from fellow gays about other fellow gays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on folks, we need to get over ourselves. I&#8217;ve heard much worse from fellow gays about other fellow gays.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Welsh rugby player named Gareth Thomas was swerving all over the road and driving really badly, so he got pulled over by a cop. 

The cop walked up to his window and asked: 

&quot;Sir, why are you driving so recklessly?&quot;

The rugby player said: 

&quot;I&#039;m sorry sir, but wherever I go, there&#039;s always a tree in front of me and I can&#039;t seem to get away from it!&quot; 

The cop looked at him and said: 

&quot;Lad, that&#039;s your air freshener!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Welsh rugby player named Gareth Thomas was swerving all over the road and driving really badly, so he got pulled over by a cop. </p>
<p>The cop walked up to his window and asked: </p>
<p>&#8220;Sir, why are you driving so recklessly?&#8221;</p>
<p>The rugby player said: </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry sir, but wherever I go, there&#8217;s always a tree in front of me and I can&#8217;t seem to get away from it!&#8221; </p>
<p>The cop looked at him and said: </p>
<p>&#8220;Lad, that&#8217;s your air freshener!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96244</link>
		<dc:creator>RobN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChutneyBear: I said exactly the same a while back about &quot;Cry Wolf&quot;.
If people continually whinge on about such trivial little minutiae, when something really important happens, people will just respond with &quot;Oh dear, there goes Chester mincing on again...&quot; and we will have lost all credibility.

When I was a kid, my Mum told me &quot;Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.&quot; She was not wrong. I have had more than my fair share of verbal abuse and basically, you just learn to grow a thicker skin and ignore it. Eventually the bullies realise they are wasting their time, get bored and go off to poke sticks at Dobermans or whatever.

This might sound defeatist, but by over-reacting every thime someone steps out of line, (often unintentionally and out of no malice), then all you do is exacerbate the problem and if people know you get upset by it, will do it all the more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChutneyBear: I said exactly the same a while back about &#8220;Cry Wolf&#8221;.<br />
If people continually whinge on about such trivial little minutiae, when something really important happens, people will just respond with &#8220;Oh dear, there goes Chester mincing on again&#8230;&#8221; and we will have lost all credibility.</p>
<p>When I was a kid, my Mum told me &#8220;Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.&#8221; She was not wrong. I have had more than my fair share of verbal abuse and basically, you just learn to grow a thicker skin and ignore it. Eventually the bullies realise they are wasting their time, get bored and go off to poke sticks at Dobermans or whatever.</p>
<p>This might sound defeatist, but by over-reacting every thime someone steps out of line, (often unintentionally and out of no malice), then all you do is exacerbate the problem and if people know you get upset by it, will do it all the more.</p>
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		<title>By: ChutneyBear</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96221</link>
		<dc:creator>ChutneyBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gendy I think yout struck the middle ground perfectly, Im not saying my attitude is right or that of people like Chester but thats a good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gendy I think yout struck the middle ground perfectly, Im not saying my attitude is right or that of people like Chester but thats a good point.</p>
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		<title>By: gendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they start yelling about a piece of risky banter like this - then it is crying wolf.I have great admiration for Peter Tatchel but he does get it wrong on a lot of things like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they start yelling about a piece of risky banter like this &#8211; then it is crying wolf.I have great admiration for Peter Tatchel but he does get it wrong on a lot of things like this.</p>
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		<title>By: ChutneyBear</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96194</link>
		<dc:creator>ChutneyBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all about the stones Chester, the ones I grab after a few pints, I think you find if I tried crawling under one you and your brethern occupy them all... Vast majority hold the same opinion as myself and RobN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all about the stones Chester, the ones I grab after a few pints, I think you find if I tried crawling under one you and your brethern occupy them all&#8230; Vast majority hold the same opinion as myself and RobN</p>
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		<title>By: AdrianT</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96160</link>
		<dc:creator>AdrianT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no problem with this remark to be honest. 

I don&#039;t see any harm done here. This is the kind of stuff that you get in rugby. Remind Mr Thomas he has a small penis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no problem with this remark to be honest. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any harm done here. This is the kind of stuff that you get in rugby. Remind Mr Thomas he has a small penis.</p>
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		<title>By: Squidgy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squidgy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pathetic story, of course it was a joke. I believe it was taken out of context and trust the likes of P. Tatchell to poke his arura in! 

I realise the joke would upset the very sensitive amongst us but I believe gay people like myself don&#039;t easily take offence to such banter are the ones who are truely happy with who we are.

P. Tatchell and the like: only in fairyland (meaning with a wand but take it how you will) would someone believe that 1 person &#039;coming out&#039; would suddenly change everyone else&#039;s opinion.

Get real, stop creating problem and furthermore get a sense of humour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pathetic story, of course it was a joke. I believe it was taken out of context and trust the likes of P. Tatchell to poke his arura in! </p>
<p>I realise the joke would upset the very sensitive amongst us but I believe gay people like myself don&#8217;t easily take offence to such banter are the ones who are truely happy with who we are.</p>
<p>P. Tatchell and the like: only in fairyland (meaning with a wand but take it how you will) would someone believe that 1 person &#8216;coming out&#8217; would suddenly change everyone else&#8217;s opinion.</p>
<p>Get real, stop creating problem and furthermore get a sense of humour.</p>
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		<title>By: Dionysian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dionysian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please can we put P Tatchell back in the closet?  IMHO he is doing more to scupper our cause than fight for it.  The man is a loose cannon.

IT WAS A JOKE!  If we can&#039;t take humour about ourselves we are no better than the rest.  So long as that it what it is - humour.

Pete, get off the high horse.  These days it seems you would pass comment on the opening of a letter if you thought it would earn you a few sentences in the press.  Do you want to help, or just promote yourself?  Ask youself that question before you call up the press office next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please can we put P Tatchell back in the closet?  IMHO he is doing more to scupper our cause than fight for it.  The man is a loose cannon.</p>
<p>IT WAS A JOKE!  If we can&#8217;t take humour about ourselves we are no better than the rest.  So long as that it what it is &#8211; humour.</p>
<p>Pete, get off the high horse.  These days it seems you would pass comment on the opening of a letter if you thought it would earn you a few sentences in the press.  Do you want to help, or just promote yourself?  Ask youself that question before you call up the press office next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/02/11/welsh-rugby-star-sorry-for-gay-joke/#comment-96116</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Gay man I&#039;m embarrassed on behalf of Tatchell who is loosing track of what&#039;s important.  He is becoming a bit of a joke always leaping up with the &#039;it&#039;s only because I&#039;m Gay!&#039; comments. There are definately times when discrimination should be addressed but is this one of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Gay man I&#8217;m embarrassed on behalf of Tatchell who is loosing track of what&#8217;s important.  He is becoming a bit of a joke always leaping up with the &#8216;it&#8217;s only because I&#8217;m Gay!&#8217; comments. There are definately times when discrimination should be addressed but is this one of them?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now he knows that Twitter is a public arena in which context isn&#039;t always apparent, and not just something between him and his mates.  Lesson learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now he knows that Twitter is a public arena in which context isn&#8217;t always apparent, and not just something between him and his mates.  Lesson learned.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathetic. Nigel Owens HIMSELF has said that he is in no way offended by the comments and that he is a good friend of the player now under attack. So why kick up such a stink? Let the media snakes go find sensation somewhere else instead of drumming up drama out of this no-story. People need to get over themselves, relax and lighten up. Why is being offended such a fashionable thing these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathetic. Nigel Owens HIMSELF has said that he is in no way offended by the comments and that he is a good friend of the player now under attack. So why kick up such a stink? Let the media snakes go find sensation somewhere else instead of drumming up drama out of this no-story. People need to get over themselves, relax and lighten up. Why is being offended such a fashionable thing these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is a very naughty boy and needs Mr &amp; Mrs Spank to take a short sharp trip to botty land; get in line ......;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is a very naughty boy and needs Mr &amp; Mrs Spank to take a short sharp trip to botty land; get in line &#8230;&#8230;;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try guys, but no cigar.

I agree with Robert (5):

&quot;Don&#039;t be so naive to dismiss it as mere banter even if it comes across as funny. We&#039;re fair game for jokes, slurs especially in sport. Anyone can deny the intention was wrong when challenged and apologies aren&#039;t always sincere.&quot;

And on Twitter to boot. Gives the Welsh a bad name, frankly.

Too bad we can&#039;t get worked up about more important issues, like zefrog said (1). After all, rubby...I mean rugby (just a slur, so, so sorry ppl, apologies to anyone offended, really, let&#039;s put it aside now OK)...is much more exciting than fighting for equal rights for all, or for gay rights as human rights. Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try guys, but no cigar.</p>
<p>I agree with Robert (5):</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t be so naive to dismiss it as mere banter even if it comes across as funny. We&#8217;re fair game for jokes, slurs especially in sport. Anyone can deny the intention was wrong when challenged and apologies aren&#8217;t always sincere.&#8221;</p>
<p>And on Twitter to boot. Gives the Welsh a bad name, frankly.</p>
<p>Too bad we can&#8217;t get worked up about more important issues, like zefrog said (1). After all, rubby&#8230;I mean rugby (just a slur, so, so sorry ppl, apologies to anyone offended, really, let&#8217;s put it aside now OK)&#8230;is much more exciting than fighting for equal rights for all, or for gay rights as human rights. Yawn.</p>
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