Comments on: Leaders’ Debate draws out criticism for Pope on homosexuality http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/ News, reviews and comment from Europe's largest gay news service Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:00:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jerry http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110353 Jerry Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:00:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110353 "I think the Catholic Church has got some very, very serious work to do to unearth and come to terms with some of the appalling things that have happened." Really? For a black-humor take on "some of the appalling things" see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k “I think the Catholic Church has got some very, very serious work to do to unearth and come to terms with some of the appalling things that have happened.” Really? For a black-humor take on “some of the appalling things” see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

]]> By: Jean-Paul, Canada http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110253 Jean-Paul, Canada Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:09:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110253 So true. That's a helleva lot o' money. and for what? Seriously. So true. That’s a helleva lot o’ money. and for what? Seriously.

]]> By: Har Davids http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110245 Har Davids Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:30:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110245 What I don't understand, is that nobody has bothered to ask the question: 'It's nice for the catholics if they want a visit from their supreme leader on earth, like some people who call themselves fans of Elton John want him to come and visit the UK. But why is the former called a state-visit costing the tax-payer millions, and the latter a tour paid by the fans? What state-business does anyone have with the Vatican these days, apart from all the abuse-cases?' What I don’t understand, is that nobody has bothered to ask the question: ‘It’s nice for the catholics if they want a visit from their supreme leader on earth, like some people who call themselves fans of Elton John want him to come and visit the UK. But why is the former called a state-visit costing the tax-payer millions, and the latter a tour paid by the fans? What state-business does anyone have with the Vatican these days, apart from all the abuse-cases?’

]]> By: Victim http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110171 Victim Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:35:27 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110171 Papists Out! Papists Out!

]]> By: PO'G http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110152 PO'G Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:40:47 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110152 #19 Morelike peddaling furiously to try and counteract the bad press beacuse of all the homophobia from most of the candidates in his Law and Justice homophobic racist tory party. #19 Morelike peddaling furiously to try and counteract the bad press beacuse of all the homophobia from most of the candidates in his Law and Justice homophobic racist tory party.

]]> By: PO'G http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110150 PO'G Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:35:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110150 #5 Jo, you are being pedantic... you know well that I meant in the political sense...old hat if you like.... Difference in Cleggs school and Callmedaves is that Callmedaves was Eton ..hence Eton twit. All you need to get into Eton is a pencil and Daddy's money...... Nick Clegg entered Westminster School on his merits and qualifications. #5 Jo, you are being pedantic… you know well that I meant in the political sense…old hat if you like…. Difference in Cleggs school and Callmedaves is that Callmedaves was Eton ..hence Eton twit. All you need to get into Eton is a pencil and Daddy’s money……
Nick Clegg entered Westminster School on his merits and qualifications.

]]> By: SimonM http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110144 SimonM Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:21:30 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110144 "Only Cameron 'mentioned' it directly thank you PO'G. Brown and Cleggy only mentioned it on the second round of answering the question. Cameron outright on the first response. Showing true leadership. " If Cameron showed true leadership then the vile homophobes Iain Duncan Smith, Julian Lewis and Chris Grayling would have been sacked from the Tory front bench for their moronic and instinctive homophobia. “Only Cameron ‘mentioned’ it directly thank you PO’G. Brown and Cleggy only mentioned it on the second round of answering the question. Cameron outright on the first response. Showing true leadership. ”

If Cameron showed true leadership then the vile homophobes Iain Duncan Smith, Julian Lewis and Chris Grayling would have been sacked from the Tory front bench for their moronic and instinctive homophobia.

]]> By: Chester http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110121 Chester Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:28:00 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110121 he doesn't lead Squidgy, he is trying to tie too much togethor he doesn’t lead Squidgy, he is trying to tie too much togethor

]]> By: Dave North http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110118 Dave North Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:16:38 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110118 "I feel that it is absolutely right that the UK's Catholic population, which is roughly 10% of the UK population, should be respected" #8 Respect is earned. And this shower have earned nothing. Continually supporting a corrupt organisation like sheep does not command respect. “I feel that it is absolutely right that the UK’s Catholic population, which is roughly 10% of the UK population, should be respected”

#8

Respect is earned.

And this shower have earned nothing.

Continually supporting a corrupt organisation like sheep does not command respect.

]]> By: Squidgy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110114 Squidgy Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:58:08 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110114 Only Cameron 'mentioned' it directly thank you PO'G. Brown and Cleggy only mentioned it on the second round of answering the question. Cameron outright on the first response. Showing true leadership. Only Cameron ‘mentioned’ it directly thank you PO’G. Brown and Cleggy only mentioned it on the second round of answering the question. Cameron outright on the first response. Showing true leadership.

]]> By: PO'G http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110111 PO'G Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:50:34 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110111 #13 I dont know what debate you were watching, as your recall of it seems so lacking. " i very much doubt it would have been mentioned atall" They all mentioned it when the question was put to them by a gay man in the audience. Callmedave just stood there spluttering when Clegg attacked him for his alliance with "nutters and homophobes in Europe" and made no effort to explain himself. I suppose he was between a rock and a hard place on that, as there is only one explanation for that, and that is that he is a nutter and homophobe himself. He couldnt very well stand on tv and admit that. #13 I dont know what debate you were watching, as your recall of it seems so lacking.
” i very much doubt it would have been mentioned atall” They all mentioned it when the question was put to them by a gay man in the audience.
Callmedave just stood there spluttering when Clegg attacked him for his alliance with “nutters and homophobes in Europe” and made no effort to explain himself. I suppose he was between a rock and a hard place on that, as there is only one explanation for that, and that is that he is a nutter and homophobe himself. He couldnt very well stand on tv and admit that.

]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110102 Mike Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:21:36 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110102 whoops I wrongly? assumed Gordon will still be PM is September; I had a senior moment(!) whoops I wrongly? assumed Gordon will still be PM is September; I had a senior moment(!)

]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110099 Mike Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:19:13 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110099 The Arch Homophobe of Rome, head of the “The Congregation for the Deformation, Persecution and Punishment of Unholy Homosexuals”, is welcomed by our political leaders is he? ANYONE who colluded in the abuse of children would be charged in court as an accessory and if he has to come here, Gordon should tell him quite firmly that he has no right to criticise our laws and tell his minions to vote for anti gay politicians! Just c'os he's an old man in a white frock does not make him exempt from the law! I was upset that the leaders did not make a more robust attack on his misdemeanours, given his attempt to interfere with our legal process, i.e. the Equalities Bill. The RC church has had no rights to put its oar into our politics since the Reformation! I see Vincent Nicholls is trying to smooth the troubled waters, always the dipolomat(!) PSI feel sorry for Her Majesty having to meet the old Nazi and be nice to him, given that her mother and father kept up the morale during the war; however, no doubt she will be gracious; it would be nice if outspoken Phil said something though(!) The Arch Homophobe of Rome, head of the “The Congregation for the Deformation, Persecution and Punishment of Unholy Homosexuals”, is welcomed by our political leaders is he? ANYONE who colluded in the abuse of children would be charged in court as an accessory and if he has to come here, Gordon should tell him quite firmly that he has no right to criticise our laws and tell his minions to vote for anti gay politicians! Just c’os he’s an old man in a white frock does not make him exempt from the law! I was upset that the leaders did not make a more robust attack on his misdemeanours, given his attempt to interfere with our legal process, i.e. the Equalities Bill. The RC church has had no rights to put its oar into our politics since the Reformation! I see Vincent Nicholls is trying to smooth the troubled waters, always the dipolomat(!)

PSI feel sorry for Her Majesty having to meet the old Nazi and be nice to him, given that her mother and father kept up the morale during the war; however, no doubt she will be gracious; it would be nice if outspoken Phil said something though(!)

]]> By: davevauxhall http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110090 davevauxhall Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:52:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110090 I am furious at Gordon Brown inviting the head of a political organisation to this country who takes every opportunity to attack Gay men and lesbians. To add insult to injury this is the second time I have heard him speak on behalf of all people in the UK welcoming the pope. I don't welcome the pope and neither do the other people who have signed petitions against him. I have no respect for most of the popes views and it is incredibly offensive to me to hear Brown say that he is sure all the people in the UK will welcome the visit, even in the face of opposition. I am furious at Gordon Brown inviting the head of a political organisation to this country who takes every opportunity to attack Gay men and lesbians. To add insult to injury this is the second time I have heard him speak on behalf of all people in the UK welcoming the pope. I don’t welcome the pope and neither do the other people who have signed petitions against him. I have no respect for most of the popes views and it is incredibly offensive to me to hear Brown say that he is sure all the people in the UK will welcome the visit, even in the face of opposition.

]]> By: George Broadhead, PTT http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110086 George Broadhead, PTT Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:40:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110086 Has it not occurred to anyone how bizarre it is for all three Party leaders to declare that they welcome the Pope's visit when they all reject his view on so many important moral issues? Isn't this a bit like the Pope welcoming Peter Tatchell to the Vatican? Of course the reality is that none of them want to alienate the UK Catholics for fear of losing their votes. Has it not occurred to anyone how bizarre it is for all three Party leaders to declare that they welcome the Pope’s visit when they all reject his view on so many important moral issues? Isn’t this a bit like the Pope welcoming Peter Tatchell to the Vatican?

Of course the reality is that none of them want to alienate the UK Catholics for fear of losing their votes.

]]> By: Squidgy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110067 Squidgy Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:19:03 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110067 David Cameron out-shone the other two by miles in my opinion. Lets not forget that it was David Cameron who actually answered the question and mentioned he didn't agree with the Pope on Homosexuality. It was only then in the second round of answering the question that both Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown then joined in agreeing. It Mr. Cameron hadn't made the statement I very much doubt it would have been mentioned at all. An excellent performance by David Cameron, he is my choice. He made the other two just look desperate. Well Done Dave!! :) David Cameron out-shone the other two by miles in my opinion.

Lets not forget that it was David Cameron who actually answered the question and mentioned he didn’t agree with the Pope on Homosexuality. It was only then in the second round of answering the question that both Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown then joined in agreeing. It Mr. Cameron hadn’t made the statement I very much doubt it would have been mentioned at all.

An excellent performance by David Cameron, he is my choice. He made the other two just look desperate.

Well Done Dave!! :)

]]> By: BB http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110057 BB Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:55:19 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110057 No No Pope Of Rome, No Papists to Sadden my eyes, No Nuns, No Priests No Rosary Beads. Not welcome in an open minded free thinking society. Keep your absurdities for you feeble minded indoctrinated flock. NO POPE IN SCOTLAND No No Pope Of Rome, No Papists to Sadden my eyes, No Nuns, No Priests No Rosary Beads. Not welcome in an open minded free thinking society. Keep your absurdities for you feeble minded indoctrinated flock. NO POPE IN SCOTLAND

]]> By: g7uk http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110052 g7uk Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:10:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110052 @ Patrick James - the figure is nearer 7%. I was disappointed that Clegg and Brown sidestepped the gay issue in their first responses and had to be reminded to answer that part of the question by the moderator. Only Cameron addressed the issue straight off saying he didn't agree with the pope on homosexuality. Brown's response was pathetic: "they [religions] all believe we should be good neighbours to each other". Huh really? @ Patrick James – the figure is nearer 7%. I was disappointed that Clegg and Brown sidestepped the gay issue in their first responses and had to be reminded to answer that part of the question by the moderator. Only Cameron addressed the issue straight off saying he didn’t agree with the pope on homosexuality.

Brown’s response was pathetic: “they [religions] all believe we should be good neighbours to each other”. Huh really?

]]> By: Jean-Paul, Canada http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110040 Jean-Paul, Canada Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:40:20 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110040 "... all three leaders also said that the Catholic Church has much to answer for in relation to abuse by priests." m-m, hold that thought. “… all three leaders also said that the Catholic Church has much to answer for in relation to abuse by priests.”

m-m, hold that thought.

]]> By: The Big Yin http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110038 The Big Yin Fri, 23 Apr 2010 03:51:59 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/04/22/leaders-debate-draws-out-criticism-for-pope-on-homosexuality/#comment-110038 "Islam has very little power in the UK" - so im just imagining all the protests in the street, the UK muslim council and of course, all the attacks & bombs? “Islam has very little power in the UK” – so im just imagining all the protests in the street, the UK muslim council and of course, all the attacks & bombs?

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